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	<title>Comments on: Zenyatta or Curlin?</title>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Andrews</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgot to mention Zarkava is 7 for 7 in races.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention Zarkava is 7 for 7 in races.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Andrews</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She a top horse Zenyatta, i think if curlin met raven&#039;s pass again same outcome but would be a close race. Dont forget there is another unbeaten filly in france called Zarkava has a great turn off foot of the pace should see her races. I think them to should race Zenyatta vs Zarkava. 

Shelton sorry i think you are gonna lose it me saying Raven&#039;s pass lol. But curlin has grown in size and seems to need to do more work on the home straight but still has speed dont get me wrong top class horse. Both trainer for big brown and curlin should have raced already. What are they waiting for really its like waiting for michael jacksons concert and new album.

Im from the united kingdom if anybody&#039;s wondering.

Naff short for Nathaniel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She a top horse Zenyatta, i think if curlin met raven&#8217;s pass again same outcome but would be a close race. Dont forget there is another unbeaten filly in france called Zarkava has a great turn off foot of the pace should see her races. I think them to should race Zenyatta vs Zarkava. </p>
<p>Shelton sorry i think you are gonna lose it me saying Raven&#8217;s pass lol. But curlin has grown in size and seems to need to do more work on the home straight but still has speed dont get me wrong top class horse. Both trainer for big brown and curlin should have raced already. What are they waiting for really its like waiting for michael jacksons concert and new album.</p>
<p>Im from the united kingdom if anybody&#8217;s wondering.</p>
<p>Naff short for Nathaniel</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Stafford</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelton, 

Sorry it took so long for me to respond.  Went on a brief hiatus after the BC weekend.

THe dispute is primarily about the percentage of out-of-state handle that the TOC would receive (I think). 

I get a bit dicey on it as well.  The bottom line is that handle coming from track attendees is down, and Hollywood is cutting purse money.  The &quot;growing&quot; part of the business is out of state handle. 

Depending on who you listen to, either one side or the other is &quot;better&quot; for the horsemen. 

I&#039;m not quite sure myself.  All I know is that these kinds of disagreements are seriously unfortunate for the sport and for the parties involved.  Hopefully it&#039;s resolved soon, although the rhetoric wouldn&#039;t lead one to believe it will.  

Thankfully, I haven&#039;t been shut out of anything through penn national (ebetusa).   :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelton, </p>
<p>Sorry it took so long for me to respond.  Went on a brief hiatus after the BC weekend.</p>
<p>THe dispute is primarily about the percentage of out-of-state handle that the TOC would receive (I think). </p>
<p>I get a bit dicey on it as well.  The bottom line is that handle coming from track attendees is down, and Hollywood is cutting purse money.  The &#8220;growing&#8221; part of the business is out of state handle. </p>
<p>Depending on who you listen to, either one side or the other is &#8220;better&#8221; for the horsemen. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure myself.  All I know is that these kinds of disagreements are seriously unfortunate for the sport and for the parties involved.  Hopefully it&#8217;s resolved soon, although the rhetoric wouldn&#8217;t lead one to believe it will.  </p>
<p>Thankfully, I haven&#8217;t been shut out of anything through penn national (ebetusa).   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: shelton</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the TOC-TVG mess all about?  Heard both sides and can&#039;t follow it!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the TOC-TVG mess all about?  Heard both sides and can&#8217;t follow it!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Stafford</title>
		<link>http://theaspiringhorseplayer.com/2008/10/30/zenyatta-or-curlin/#comment-2902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Stafford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup - I agree with the Big Brown portion there - he probably would&#039;ve run HUGE in this year&#039;s classic considering he&#039;s a darn good turfer.   I don&#039;t mean to take anything away from Raven&#039;s Pass, either.  &quot;She&quot; (hehe) is one helluva horse.  My &quot;artificial champions&quot; was really just an attempt to stoke my old pal Shelton up there at the top into a cursing rampage.  He&#039;s been a little sensitive to the fact that the BC was run on synthetics.  :) 

Regarding the Beyers - I agree as well.  I just tossed them out there for discussion&#039;s sake, but with the caveat that it&#039;s &quot;narcissistic&quot; to view them as apples to apples.  After all, each race, each field, each distance, each track - there&#039;s enough difference there to render them unique - but they do have a place in helping us begin to compare.  They certainly aren&#039;t the whole shebang, but they are part of the equation is all I&quot;m suggesting - and it is interesting that Zenny&#039;s &quot;top&quot; is just a few points from Curlin&#039;s &quot;bottom.&quot;  That&#039;s one of those things that makes you go &quot;hmmmmmmmmm.&quot;  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup &#8211; I agree with the Big Brown portion there &#8211; he probably would&#8217;ve run HUGE in this year&#8217;s classic considering he&#8217;s a darn good turfer.   I don&#8217;t mean to take anything away from Raven&#8217;s Pass, either.  &#8220;She&#8221; (hehe) is one helluva horse.  My &#8220;artificial champions&#8221; was really just an attempt to stoke my old pal Shelton up there at the top into a cursing rampage.  He&#8217;s been a little sensitive to the fact that the BC was run on synthetics.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Regarding the Beyers &#8211; I agree as well.  I just tossed them out there for discussion&#8217;s sake, but with the caveat that it&#8217;s &#8220;narcissistic&#8221; to view them as apples to apples.  After all, each race, each field, each distance, each track &#8211; there&#8217;s enough difference there to render them unique &#8211; but they do have a place in helping us begin to compare.  They certainly aren&#8217;t the whole shebang, but they are part of the equation is all I&#8221;m suggesting &#8211; and it is interesting that Zenny&#8217;s &#8220;top&#8221; is just a few points from Curlin&#8217;s &#8220;bottom.&#8221;  That&#8217;s one of those things that makes you go &#8220;hmmmmmmmmm.&#8221;  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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